2002 civics

[RedRacerCivic]

hey at least honda is not making their cars look like the toyota echos! uke:

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My little '91 Si
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Kill list:
95' geo metro
00' goped
69' pinto
92' suzuki swift
97'garbage truck
old lady in a buick

[Ben L]

i hate to say it, but other than the fact that it's a HONDA, there's really no other reason i would choose a 02 civic si over the 02 focus SVT. the sVT has more power, more torque, a larger engine, and in my humble opinion, looks better than the si. but if i were going to spend 20K on a new car, i'd opt for a few years old low mileage teg type R, or wait awhile for the RSX type R.

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-Ben L.
1989 Civic Si
1990 300ZX TT Stage III

[Street-Sweeper]

let's just say to hell with it and order a skyline eh...www.skylinegtr.com. i had no idea they port em over here now, 20000 is a lot of loot. 15G's is the going price for one on e-bay cars now, street-legal and twin turbo'd. honda GIVE US THE TYPE R HERE NOW OR ELSE>>>

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[Ladynredsi]

i've said it before and i'll say it again:

i'd LIVE in my 4G if i could. you're gonna have to pry my cold stiff hands off the steering wheel if you don't plan on diggin' a grave that big

ami

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"Hi, my name is Ami and I'm a Honda-coholic"

[nawoj]

you guys seem to be stuck on the HP issue.

what about the handling abilities?

it has a incredibly stiff chassis, the CTR suspension, AND electric power steering, which has been said to provide incredible steering feel, and not rob hp due to no steering power pump.

realise people that this is not a hot rod, not a piece of detroit steel, and deff not a sports car. its a "sporty" economy car.

and with the focus allready having a recall, and with honda's reliability, id take that "baby food inspired" colored car.

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i disagree to agree... DAMNIT!

[habib_88]

http://www.vtec.net/civic/02si/

nawoj- I couldn't agree more with what you said. The car is gonna just as good if not better than previous civics due to the shocks being derived from the CTR, the stiffest chassis ever for a civic, and I learned the new macphearson struts allowed honda to play with the suspenion geometry so the front wheels can stay flatter on the ground. For brakes, its the first Si with ABS, nuff said really.

In power, yea I still think it could use either a bit more Hp or torque. Reason is because for the same price you less you can pick up a SVT or SER with alot more to offer.

What I don't like is the sheer weight of the thing, 2700lbs...lord, thing can probaly run head on into a ford excurison and live hehe.

But its got honda quailty ( I read a review on a prototype SVT...the car was falling apart on the editors they had to get another one). And as mentioned its got niffy things like eletric steering and the rally shifter to make drving the new Si a bit more pleasureable. I say lets wait and see...personally...i'm waiting for this bad boy to come over hehe



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Suspenion Mods- More than you can shake a stick at...
Brake mods- I could slow down a buick if needed
Engine mods- Shit I knew I forgot something

[qwik91DX]

i read that the 02 civ had a 2.0 liter that would be a .4 liter diff from the si we had be4 and whats more i heard all that honda was doing was giving us a type-r civic the only diff is they stole sme ponies and losered rpm red line other than that we r getting th type-r y would it matter ne ways they both look the same and yes i do love that new handling capabilities and if u dont like the puke colours get it painted or buy the black version...how long will it take to get decent mods for the new i-v-tec?..oh well i'll keep my 4 gen. when im done i'll jus spank a 7 gen ne how

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if u can't mod it, and it isn't foreign, i don't want it!

[Ben L]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by habib_88:
http://www.vtec.net/civic/02si/

nawoj- I couldn't agree more with what you said. The car is gonna just as good if not better than previous civics due to the shocks being derived from the CTR, the stiffest chassis ever for a civic, and I learned the new macphearson struts allowed honda to play with the suspenion geometry so the front wheels can stay flatter on the ground. For brakes, its the first Si with ABS, nuff said really.

In power, yea I still think it could use either a bit more Hp or torque. Reason is because for the same price you less you can pick up a SVT or SER with alot more to offer.

What I don't like is the sheer weight of the thing, 2700lbs...lord, thing can probaly run head on into a ford excurison and live hehe.

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hmm..doesn't the japanese SiR have abs..in 1990..11 years ago? man, they don't share any of the goodies. i looked in the washington post car ads today..for the same 19K it's gonna cost to get a new 02 si, you could hook up with a 00 GSR w/ practically no miles on it



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-Ben L.
1989 Civic Si
1990 300ZX TT Stage III

[habib_88]

Greddy turbo kit for the RSX, suppose to be close to 300hp at least. HKS had a pic of theirs too someplace. Both kits will be out shortly.

AEM is already making all of their usual parts for the K20 engines (i don't wanna post a million pictures so heres a link, and yes it has NOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!! hehe) http://www.vtec.net/sema/01/images/tov01sema-39.jpg

Keep in mind some companies had a head start when working on this motor (S2000, still a K20 but lacks Vtec-i and such). The aftermarket is not sleeping on these cars at all. And I was lookin in import tuner, the power pages section where they dyno cars with basic parts (only part of the mag I really enjoy besides the fine women). And a intake and catback on a RSX-S got 21hp...sounds crazy but they had the dyno sheets to back it up and its not like they treated that RSX any differntly from any other car. So the new motor isn't that bad of a deal (its got torque woooot!!!)

Ben L- yea the US has been screwed on having ABS on civics till recently...sucks ass doesn't it? lol

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Suspenion Mods- More than you can shake a stick at...
Brake mods- I could slow down a buick if needed
Engine mods- Shit I knew I forgot something

[NC_Rex]

From what I've heard about the new EX Civic's, people who've bought them cannot do anything with them. All mods just don't respond. I think this was in reference to Intake and Exhuast.

Now the new I-VTEC for the Civic, who knows what it will take to rechip these things? As most people already know...people who buy ITR engines were not running OBDII because it held back so much....they were buying fuel management systems or rechipping P30 ECU's with Spoon and Mugen Programs to run them. ...Basically, how long will it take to get performance programs and fuel management for these new engines? The only thing I can think of is Fuel Management - TECII, Superpro....those things.

And these engines are completely different - Direct fire, no distributor, no power steering - electrical, different oil pans, Engine Mounts and mount brackets completely different, ...looking at the EX D17A..that thing is completely different. Almost doesn't even look like a Honda because not much is familiar on the engine.

I hope someone crack's that ECU and make programs....and that would Greddy introduce a Turbo Kit for these models.

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